TF2 For IOS?
I play Hero Academy on IOS, i have all of the teams available, but i have been wanting TF2. I wanted to know who else wants TF2 for IOS and if anyone knows if its specifically exclusive to steam or if it will ever come out on the iphone.
Really?! That's it? They don't have to buy the team for me or anything?
yep, that's right
Woah... Now to find someone who plays HA on steam...
*raises hand*
-_- this is not shady at all.
Also, you're gonna be _that guy_ who can't be bothered to spend $5 on a game he likes? Really?
-_- this is not shady at all.
Also, you're gonna be _that guy_ who can't be bothered to spend $5 on a game he likes? Really?
Y, I surprised that so many are jumping to help. Exploiting an unintended loophole to get free software is basically the same as DLing pirated software.
I possibly shouldnt be condeming it, since I did this to get my boy a copy -- in the belief that one $4.99 payment per family was sufficient. That struck me as different.
I actually bought the team for 2.49 already due to steam sales. I guess my post was in bad taste...=/
-_- this is not shady at all.
Also, you're gonna be _that guy_ who can't be bothered to spend $5 on a game he likes? Really?
It's kinda different when your spending 5 dollars just for TF2 or have no way of logging in on HA through steam. I bought HA on steam but my friend downloaded it on his PC. I got my team and some avatars, he got a free game for his help.
By the way, everyone and I mean everyone! At some point has DLC traded or just let someone get a free download from them. It may be frowned upon but hey, If it's free it's for me!
By the way, everyone and I mean everyone! At some point has DLC traded or just let someone get a free download from them. It may be frowned upon but hey, If it's free it's for me!
Err... Can't say I know anyone personally who's done that (DLC traded and what not.) But hey, I''m just saying.
Besides, Steam is free. How would you have no way of logging in on HA through Steam? o_O
Plus, $5 is only $3 more than the standard $1.99 cost for all the other teams, unless you're waiting for a sale to clip off a dollar. But They also bundle 17 Council and 17 TF2 avatars onboard with the $1.99 baseline cost, so if you think about it you're pretty much getting $5 worth of avatars ($2.50 each IIRC normally through iOS) along with the $1.99 team.
So.... $5 of avatars plus the $1.99 TF2 team on Steam for $4.99.... yeah, I think it's fair.
Y, I surprised that so many are jumping to help. Exploiting an unintended loophole to get free software is basically the same as DLing pirated software.
I possibly shouldnt be condeming it, since I did this to get my boy a copy -- in the belief that one $4.99 payment per family was sufficient. That struck me as different.
Eh. This is the classic family/close friend wants a copy scenario when discussing copying games for friends back in the day when games were only ever found on CDs (le gasp, yes those olden days!). I've always thought it was fair to copy to a close member of your life, so what you did is ok in my opinion.
Besides, Steam is free. How would you have no way of logging in on HA through Steam? o_O
- old PC
- Mac
- (just thought of this) not allowed to downlaos steam because of the "othe games" on steam
The way I see it is that RE knows about this and has not done anything so they don't care. They could make a "max of 6 TF2 teams per copy of the game" thing if they actually cared...
- old PC
- Mac
- (just thought of this) not allowed to downlaos steam because of the "othe games" on steam
The way I see it is that RE knows about this and has not done anything so they don't care. They could make a "max of 6 TF2 teams per copy of the game" thing if they actually cared...
OOoh, good point about the first two, though....
Mac-users have it rough regardless, but they chose to buy the Mac, knowing most games are on PC. Whenever I say that to my Mac-loving friend, he always brings up "Boot Camp" (ability for Macs to run Windows).
You can't really expect RE to develop something for Mac-users though. And old computer users... well, they can apparently afford a iOS to play Hero Academy, they can't afford a laptop alongside it? I'm not sure HA is their main priority if they're THAT CLOSE in their budget.
And we're not psychic, we have no idea what's going on internally at RE company. =/
I post this in all seriousness. I write software for a living.
Let me repeat that last part because its important... FOR A LIVING.
To feed my family. To keep a roof over their head. To pay for heat and electricity. All of which are supplied by people that are doing the same thing for their families.
I find theft and piracy of intellectual property offensive (s/w, music, videos)and there is no justification for it except in the case ArtNJ stated (which to me is a licensing oversight). Just because its easy or not that valuable($5) or hasn't been prevented doesn't excuse it.
Support good products by paying the good people that work long and hard to make it for you.
The only way i see this as acceptable is if you yourself have no access to a computer. Otherwise, read what Writch said
Robot would have removed the ability to do this if they thought it was piracy, it is an intended feature of interaction between steam and ios platforms. There is no arguing that it would be removed if it was a loophole to getting a team for free and the creaters know of it. Also if you really believe piracy is stealing and wrong, what is any more righteous about stealing a game for for your son, family member or close friend because you already bought it and you didn't feel you should pay $5 twice to get it for them? Any sense of moral decency you are trying to show is a hippocritical failure and self righteous nonsense.
I have a very old computer and slow internet speed and i don't work with steam so i do wish someone to be a friend and help me get TF2 please
-_- this is not shady at all.
Also, you're gonna be _that guy_ who can't be bothered to spend $5 on a game he likes? Really?
I love Robot Entertainment and I have given much to them for their games, i have bought OMD for 360 and All of the teams on ios hero academy and the challenge pack and a few other purchases, its not that i don't want to fork up $5 on a game i've alredy spent a good bit on, i would gladly buy the TF2 team if they made it available for purchase on ios. Since they made this feature where you can share the TF2 team with six of your friends by logging into their account on steam and logging off, it is my way to get this team as i can't do steam with my pc. If this was some shady exploit at all, don't you think they would stop people from doing this, especially with people posting about it on the RobotEntertainment.com forums??
Robot would have removed the ability to do this if they thought it was piracy, it is an intended feature of interaction between steam and ios platforms. There is no arguing that it would be removed if it was a loophole to getting a team for free and the creaters know of it. Also if you really believe piracy is stealing and wrong, what is any more righteous about stealing a game for for your son, family member or close friend because you already bought it and you didn't feel you should pay $5 twice to get it for them? Any sense of moral decency you are trying to show is a hippocritical failure and self righteous nonsense.
I have a very old computer and slow internet speed and i don't work with steam so i do wish someone to be a friend and help me get TF2 please
Not every store or every item of clothing in Old Navy has an anti-theft tag, but that doesn't mean they don't think it's not shoplifting if i tried to walk out of the store without paying for it.
And I already qualified the family scenario as a licensing oversight if indeed it even applied. If i buy teams on one of my IOS devices, they are available on all of my family's device because we use the same itunes account. Steam doesn't have the same proliferating distribution schema.
You say you want a friend to help you out because your tech is old. Why not just go out and shoplift some better tech? Or is there a difference? Is that difference only the amount of risk?
I'm not being hippocritical. I'm being ethically consistent - not picking and choosing scruples based on convenience or context. Before pointing out the self-righteous splinter in my eye, perhaps you take out the one in yours. I think it may affecting your vision.
I really think that RE wanted to bring this product to their purchasing an supporting fans on IOS, but probably aren't allowed because tf2 is not their product.
This means that the owners probably didn't allow RE to sell tf2 via their competitors platform iTunes, or they asked a so steep price that it would not be an option for RE.
I really does not see any other reason for this team being exclusive to only some. I think this is clearly shown, because no other team is exclusive other than tf2 that RE didn't invent themselves.
I myself would buy tf2 was it available on IOS, but I do not want to get steam, download it, login with my account on steam etc. to get. It just seem like more work than I want to do. I would gladly pay more on IOS so I would avoid the cross platform hassle to get this team.
I love your views Writch, so much so that I decided to make a little something for you. Seeing as Robot hasn't caught onto the idea of Ponies yet perhaps a little demonstration is in order? (Please note I did make this late at night, and I used Pony Creator to Generate the pony head.) And this is an ingame screenshot I didn't edit the pony head on.
http://postimage.org/image/xmn8dfrr3/
Now please tell me you are the one that likes Ponies right? I am not getting confused right?
I dont know why folks assume that Robot could close this exploit if they wanted too. They dont own Steam, and Steam wasnt designed to work seamlessly with an IOS app. So there is no reason I know to think that this is easily closeable, or that its a big enough deal for Steam to do whatever work would be required.
I love your views Writch, so much so that I decided to make a little something for you. Seeing as Robot hasn't caught onto the idea of Ponies yet perhaps a little demonstration is in order? (Please note I did make this late at night, and I used Pony Creator to Generate the pony head.) And this is an ingame screenshot I didn't edit the pony head on.
http://postimage.org/image/xmn8dfrr3/
Now please tell me you are the one that likes Ponies right? I am not getting confused right?
Yes, I'm the faux-brony. And I thank you for the token of homage.
Alas, with one pony a team is not made. And i must have luxurious manes, tossing tails, and slender behooved legs along with those noble snouts.
Perhaps I should have a crack at this Pony Maker you speak of... I hope it is affordable.
It comes at the very reasonable price of free http://generalzoi.deviantart.com/art/Pony-Creator-Full-Version-254295904.
I dont know why folks assume that Robot could close this exploit if they wanted too. They dont own Steam, and Steam wasnt designed to work seamlessly with an IOS app. So there is no reason I know to think that this is easily closeable, or that its a big enough deal for Steam to do whatever work would be required.
Indeed! It is precisely system interfaces with which I daily toil. A dozen or so years getting the B2B pipes aligned and sorting through the XML of WSDLs to figure out where parameter mistyping occured or synchronous settings are causing timeouts.
They have nothing but assumptions to rely upon regarding complexites of network interfaces and the vagries of cross-platform brand marketing. Not their fault - the are just inexperienced and/or unknowledgeable in those areas. Gamer trade rags are not primary sources for technical discourse. Forums aren't even secondary - you cannot footnote hearsay. Playing a game does not give you implementation cred, and buying stuff does not make you an expert on marketing and economics. Wisdom = knowledge + experience. One must have both to be a guru, otherwise they are merely a pundit.
tl, dr: Reading is not doing.
I frequently download tv series. If I lived in the states, I'd watch it on tv (I'd probably Tivo it in all honesty) but waiting an arbitrary amount of time for something that already exists that I could have had access to for free if I was in the right place doesn't feel right. Not to mention that a lot of stuff doesn't make the jump from the other side of the pond to here. I can hand on heart say that if I had a legal way to access content the moment it became available I would use it, even if it meant shelling out a little for it. I do have an active crunchyroll sub even if I could get anime for free if I chose to.
I frequently download tv series. If I lived in the states, I'd watch it on tv (I'd probably Tivo it in all honesty) but waiting an arbitrary amount of time for something that already exists that I could have had access to for free if I was in the right place doesn't feel right. Not to mention that a lot of stuff doesn't make the jump from the other side of the pond to here. I can hand on heart say that if I had a legal way to access content the moment it became available I would use it, even if it meant shelling out a little for it. I do have an active crunchyroll sub even if I could get anime for free if I chose to.
No offense, but that's pretty much the argument from so-called consumers in the PRC. Inaccessability, whether natural like geography or artificial like a governments restriction, should not be used to justify intellectual poaching on large scales like China's macroscopic clone culture or individually like America's entitlement culture.
Look. I'm not an unreasonable guy. I'm just saying that there are people downstream of your decision. And if it becomes generally acceptable behavior the aggregated consequences are victimizing economically. And that doesn't change if the reasons are good, bad, or ugly.
Bottom line of my ethos is the Golden Rule. Now you may not write code like I do, but would you like someone to plagiarize your published book that you spent months on, only to have it copied and reprinted by some knock-off company that won't pay you? Or worse - upoaded in its entirety to Scribd where you get not a single penny?
Or your band invests thousands recording your first CD that you spent a year creating, only to see it downloadable for free somewhere online or some other band performing it for huge paying crowds while not paying royalties?
Do unto others.
That's last I'll post on this.
Adding my voice to the "It is not the money," crowd.
I have gladly purchased nearly everything purchasable on iOS. I love HA and want it to be profitable for RE, so they devote more resources to it.
I don't have TF2, and that annoys me greatly. I don't know why they haven't made it available on Mac. Considering that Mac users have a greater tendency to pay for software, I think it was a poor decision not to make it available for Mac.
I wonder if they could make it available on iOS for $7. They could give Steam what they want, give Apple what they want, and still keep what they keep for the other teams.
Yes it is a steam exclusive and as of right now robot has no plans to release it on iOS. What you can do is have a friend log on your hero academy account on the steam version. After that just log out and log back in and you should now be able to play TF2 on your iOS device.
So does this method work as of december 30th 2012? I would like to buy the extra teams and for 8.99 the steam gold version is what I would get, Of course pending this method. All I do is login in using the steam mobile app for my iPhone right? Hero academy would update and grant the tf2 team as well? I actually want this so that when and if I am afk//traveling the game and all its units are available to me on my iPhone. Otherwise I'll just spend the 3.96 for the iOS teams.
Yes it is a steam exclusive and as of right now robot has no plans to release it on iOS. What you can do is have a friend log on your hero academy account on the steam version. After that just log out and log back in and you should now be able to play TF2 on your iOS device.
So does this method work as of december 30th 2012? I would like to buy the extra teams and for 8.99 the steam gold version is what I would get, Of course pending this method. All I do is login in using the steam mobile app for my iPhone right? Hero academy would update and grant the tf2 team as well? I actually want this so that when and if I am afk//traveling the game and all its units are available to me on my iPhone. Otherwise I'll just spend the 3.96 for the iOS teams.
Assuming you mean that once you log into hero academy on your pc/mac it recognises that you have all the teams then yes it works
Yes it is a steam exclusive and as of right now robot has no plans to release it on iOS. What you can do is have a friend log on your hero academy account on the steam version. After that just log out and log back in and you should now be able to play TF2 on your iOS device.