TF2?
Does anyone know if TF2 will ever become available for purchase on IOs? i really dont want to spend 5$ for the game on Steam and wont be able to resist much longer! I think i'm going to have to give in to my temptations after a while to buy it on Steam :(
This might answer some questions. :)
http://www.robotentertainment.com/forum/topic/Just-Clear-TF2-Issue
I think I might put this link in my sig.
Dude. It's a $3 difference. That's less than 70% of the Starbucks menu.
Was about to say something but then I saw my Starbuck$ cofee next to me
When I do buy the game on steam can I connect my IOs games to the steam account so I can play TF2 on my iPod?
When I do buy the game on steam can I connect my IOs games to the steam account so I can play TF2 on my iPod?
Yup.
While I come down on the "its not right" side of the fence, if $5 its a huge issue you can always "steal" the TF2 team by using a friend's pw to log into steam on your machine, which unlocks TF2 for your idevice if your friend has TF2. A number of forum members even defend this as proper conduct. I cant really wrap my head around it being the right thing to do, but if the $5 is a big deal to you, its an option you can evaluate for yourself.
I don't think you need to put "steal" in quotes Art. It is theft pure & simple.
It is theft pure & simple.
I'm not condoning the practice (and I paid for the TF2 team), but this is wrong. Copyright infringement is not theft.
From Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_infringement
"Theft"
Copyright holders frequently refer to copyright infringement as theft. In copyright law, infringement does not refer to theft of physical objects that take away the owner's possession, but an instance where a person exercises one of the exclusive rights of the copyright holder without authorization.[6] Courts have distinguished between copyright infringement and theft holding, for instance, in the United States Supreme Court case Dowling v. United States (1985), that bootleg phonorecords did not constitute stolen property and that "interference with copyright does not easily equate with theft, conversion, or fraud. The Copyright Act even employs a separate term of art to define one who misappropriates a copyright: '[...] an infringer of the copyright.'" The court said that in the case of copyright infringement, the province guaranteed to the copyright holder by copyright law—certain exclusive rights—is invaded, but no control, physical or otherwise, is taken over the copyright, nor is the copyright holder wholly deprived of using the copyrighted work or exercising the exclusive rights held.[1]
Piracy is not Copyright Infringement. Theft of intellectual property is a form of Piracy.
A bootleg phonorecord is not anywhere near the same as a pirated software copy. Bootlegs are unauthorized recordings of live performances in the application of that case cited above. They are typically poor analog reproductions of a live performace of an prior-produced studio performance (or improvisations). Making a copy of the digital master recording of the studio session, then duplicating it on digital media for free or proftiable redistribution without the express permission of the original producers would never be interpretted as a "bootleg copy".
I think your confusing this "using your friends account" with the idea of copying several chapters out of a book he owns for research or later recreational reading - that would be the proper loophole in copyright infringement your trying to drive your stolen truck through.
And the wikipedia article youshould be linking to is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_piracy
I just wanted to clarify that.
Writch, admittedly the bootleg phonorecord is not the best practical example here, but I was just citing Wikipedia. Nonetheless, it's an applicable legal example. Generally, both are forms of copyright infringement and neither is theft or stealing.
I'm not quite sure what you are arguing against here. Even the link you provided (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_piracy) clearly states in the first sentence that software piracy is a form of copyright infringement, which was, in fact, the substance of my point.
The only form of piracy that is not copyright infringement involves peg-leg men named Blackbeard, overt usage of the word "argggggg", or their more modern Somalian equivalents.
Yup. Now I see it.
You win again, Gribbs. Good Game - I'll just resign now and keep from dragging it on for 50 rounds.
Peace.
Gribbs, you may well be technically correct - I am no lawyer :)
But if you were to ask the developers who worked on the game, and the income from which pays their salaries, I am sure they would see it as stealing from them. That was, and is, my point.
Anyway, I'm not looking for an argument :)
While I paid for my copy. I think it's a dodgy dealing but I wouldn't go so far as declaring outright theft. Back when mac users couldn't buy it i would have put it in the grey area. Now that they can I say it is less grey
While I paid for my copy. I think it's a dodgy dealing but I wouldn't go so far as declaring outright theft. Back when mac users couldn't buy it i would have put it in the grey area. Now that they can I say it is less grey
Ditto







Yeah, I doubt it will ever become available on iOS.. just get it on steam, you know you want to. =pThat's what I did, at least! And I had to do it on my crappy decade old laptop, because they didn't even have a Mac client at the time! (they do now)
Mew? =^^=
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