NEW PLAYER ASSISTANCE THREAD - GUIDE ...
Sometimes new players find learning Hero Academy a little overwhelming. We are here to help.
Some background. Hero Academy was released for iphone in January of 2012, and was released on Steam in August of 2012. The two included teams on release were Council and Dark Elves, with the other four added every so often thereafter. One of the teams, Team Fortress 2, is only available if you download Hero Academy on Steam. There have been various balance patches, the most recent being around January/February 2013. Generally, balance is pretty good, but most would like to see some additional balancing done, especially to the Shaolin.
This thread is: (1) a place to arrange training matches with experienced players (just ask!); (2) a place to ask questions; (3) a place where we have linked to various guides and blogs, including information on the various "hidden" mechanics such as how area of effect damage works.
One big picture item: there is a player league, that uses an ELO rating system, the idea to found it was mine but a lot of others helped out a ton. We have over 10,000 games played, leaderboards and the like. Many of the forum members here are league members. You can register at robotentertainmentfans.com.
If you have played a few practice games, the next step is probably to understand the hidden mechanics of your team's units. For example, did you know that Dark Elves' Wraith can spawn from your hand to any KO'd unit anywhere on the board? That TF2's Heavy does double damage in melee? These facts are not disclosed anywhere in the app -- they hare the hidden mechanics. Hamlet has put together a FANTASTIC guide with all the information you need on the hidden mechanics. http://iam.yellingontheinternet.com/2012/08/10/hero-academy-mechanics-gu...
Hopefully, by the time you read this, my faction guides will be updated for the latest version. They are a good source of faction-specific strategies.
Faction Guides:
Dark Elves: http://www.robotentertainment.com/forum/topic/Dark-Elves-Strategy-Guide (done)
Council: http://www.robotentertainment.com/forum/topic/Team-Strategy-Council-working-draft-progress (90% done)
Dwarves: http://www.robotentertainment.com/forum/topic/Dwarf-Strategy-Guide (done)
Tribe: http://www.robotentertainment.com/forum/topic/Tribal-Fury-Guide-Tribe (done)
I also wrote some map specific guides:
Map Specific Guides (done except as noted):
Single Crystal Map: http://www.robotentertainment.com/forum/topic/Map-Specific-Strategy-Sing...
Tribe Map (3 Crystals Each Side): http://www.robotentertainment.com/forum/topic/Map-Specific-Strategy-Tribe-Map-3-Crystals-Each-Side
Two Close In Crystals, Single Boost Tile on the Bottom Row: http://www.robotentertainment.com/forum/topic/Map-Specific-Strategy-Two-...
Teleport Map: http://www.robotentertainment.com/forum/topic/Map-Specific-Strategy-Teleport-Map (some updates planned)
4 Crystals Forming a Square: http://www.robotentertainment.com/forum/topic/Map-Specific-Strategy-4-Cr...
Other guides & Links:
1. Tabby_Nat's Blog. Has some game replays with comments and one what is the best move type puzzle (more to come): http://omvm.blogspot.com. Tabby is an active member of the community and posts game replays with commentary periodically.
2. Katastrophe's Blog: Has a game replay with comments, and some discussions of various strategic topics. http://heroacademyprof.tumblr.com. Havent looked at this in a while, its probably very out of date.
3. The Player Run League: 10,000+ games played, ELO based rankings and forums. http://robotentertainmentfans.com
4. Some very basic new player strategy tips I wrote: http://www.robotentertainment.com/forum/topic/New-Player-Basic-Tips
5. Wyatt's blog: http://wyattcheng.blogspot.com/. Wyatt admits that some of his strategies are a little different, so take them as gospel at your own risk. Not sure if/when updates stopped.
6. http://thejamesreview.com/ James, AKA Tsothoga, has a very attractive site with some interesting material to check out as well. Tsothoga is ranked on the total games played leaderboard, but I'm not sure when this was last updated.
Common Questions:
Q: Are there ratings or a ladder?
A: Not officially, but check out the player-run League at Robotentertainmentfans.com. Over 10,000 games played, plus an Elo-based leaderboard. Robot knows that many people would like an official system that does more than gamecenter currently does, but they have been "thinking about" the issue for most of the app's 15 month history;
Q: What is the best team?
A: League data current suggests that Team Fortress is the strongest overall team. Tribe and Dwarves are generally considered solid and strong choices. Shaolin and Dark Elves have the worst performance in the League, with Shaolin generally being considered a poor choice by top ranked players. While many teams can struggle against Team Fortress, the Shaolin have especially serious problems. Robot does not provide its won-loss data, so the League is the only source of data for us to look at. All of that said, generally balance is pretty good, and generally player skill > what faction you pick.
Q: How do you keep track of what has been used?
A: There is a hidden feature that does this. Just click on the picture of your avatar up top or your opponents avatar.
Q: Is there a way to do replays?
A: You can take screen shots, but no, there are no true replays. Robot knows this has been requested. I dont know that they have specifically refused, but dont hold your breath!
Q: Will Robot add single player, pass n play or 2 v 2?
A: Robot has said that this stuff is not currently in the plan.
Q: Does swapping an item actually work? I seem to get the same item back!
A: Swap item now works like scrabble swap. If you swap a letter "A" you can get one back, because there is more than one of each letter in Scrabble. Because it works like Scrabble swap, you cannot get the same copy of the same item back.
Q: I had an item left that I could have used to get my last knocked out unit up, how did I lose?
A: This is a design choice by Robot. You must have a unit on the board or in your hand that is awake to keep playing, and a knocked out unit with an item in your hand wont cut it. At least some players report finding this counter-intuitive, but its the rule so plan for it.
Q: Player 1 has an advantage. Unfair!
A: Robot added a feature in the settings menu. You can select 3 or 4 "AP" - action points - meaning that the first turn, player 1 will only get 3 or 4 moves. Player 1 has to set this. There is no way to make sure you get someone that will do so in random games.
Q: Random games are too easy!
A: Play in the League at robotentertainmentfans.com or challenge a forum member.
Q: People take too long to move, this stinks!
A: A quick play option is favored by many, but Robot doesnt want to split players into two many groups on the theory that it would take longer to find matches. Your options are to start a bunch of games so you always have some ready when you are ready to make moves, or find something else.
Yeah I'm down to help anyone interested.
Sure, sign me up.
Yup sure I'll definitely give teaching games. :)
Thanks all. I could use some help adding additional links to guides & fan sites.
hi! thanks for the thread!
i found 2 links to guides which i thought is very useful for new players
http://wyattcheng.blogspot.com/
http://thejamesreview.com/
anyways i'm from singapore.. have been playing this game for a while, finding more ways to improve. that's why i posted the new player league thread. anyone up for advice for me?
i dun mind helping out new players as well, just not sure if i'm the same standard with you guys.. haha
i dun mind helping out new players as well, just not sure if i'm the same standard with you guys.. haha
I think that anyone that knows how all the units and rules work can be a valuable resource, so I'll add you to the list. As to your other post where you request a game with an advanced player, let me give you two names to try and match you with a strong player from the right time zone. Epan, one of the all time wins leaders, is from Singapore I believe. CountVlad I know is from Singapore, and also very strong. While neither of these guys seems to have seen this thread yet, I bet both would be willing to help.
thanks man appreciate the help
Hi! I'm new to the forums but I've been playing for awhile. I've got about 90 wins with at least 50 of those from the Dark Elves. Just bought the tribe and dwarves recently. But yeah, I'd really like to volunteer. Can I be added onto the list?
Be happy to teach. I'm in the US, central time zone, and play a bit during the workday but mostly evenings and weekends. I am also something of a night owl, so 11pm - 2am can be prime gaming time.
Great idea!
I absolutely love showing people HA. Add me to the list! EST, usually awake during 3rd shift hours.
I absolutely love showing people HA. Add me to the list! EST, usually awake during 3rd shift hours.
I am not exactly sure what that even means . . . like 11pm to 7am?
Haha, so many people willing to teach...but I suspect we won't get many bites unfortunately.
Haha, so many people willing to teach...but I suspect we won't get many bites unfortunately.
Yeah, we'll have to see, but if nothing else its a good place to collect links to guides and such.
A possible unintended side effect of this thread is that we got 10 join requests to the League during the day today, which never happens anymore unless Robot mentions us in a blog post or something. Subliminal advertising. I processed 7 of them during lunch, but I figure it wouldnt be right not to leave a few for our newest admin -- go get em, lol :)
A possible unintended side effect of this thread is that we got 10 join requests to the League during the day today, which never happens anymore unless Robot mentions us in a blog post or something. Subliminal advertising. I processed 7 of them during lunch, but I figure it wouldnt be right not to leave a few for our newest admin -- go get em, lol :)
Maybe from the recent Twitter retweet?
A possible unintended side effect of this thread is that we got 10 join requests to the League during the day today, which never happens anymore unless Robot mentions us in a blog post or something. Subliminal advertising. I processed 7 of them during lunch, but I figure it wouldnt be right not to leave a few for our newest admin -- go get em, lol :)
Yeah, I need some practice! :)
ill be glad to help. i understand what it is to be new to HA.... i would just walk around and get killed. lol
hey since everyone is so willing to teach but no one to learn, i'll be the first one to be the learner =)
anyone willing to "spar"? i'll send the request
Add me to volunteer list, I would love to help out!!!!
hollow sands start a game with me in 5 dayws... stuck on vacation without wifi
Hollowsands, I asked CountVlad (also from Singapore) and he said he would gladly give you some pointers, just send him a challenge. He is really very good, so that seems like the best fit for some guidance for you.
thanks! i'm currently participating in a few league matches already..
and it's tough.. haha really got lots of improvement to go for!
thanks! i'm currently participating in a few league matches already..
and it's tough.. haha really got lots of improvement to go for!
If you still want too, CountVlad said he would be willing to play practice games with you, just send him a challenge. Count is top 10 in the League, and has an aggressive style that would be useful to learn. I'm locked in a match up with him now, 25-30 turns in and I still dont know what is going on.
I would like to be on the Volunteer List too.
Country: Austria
Timezone: GMT+1 (EST -5)
NICK: Yourtime
yours Yourtime
I've been playing for a little while now. I have a pretty good, basic understanding of the game. I wouldn't mind some training/pointers to take my game up a notch or two if someone is interested. HA-Maddhadder
I feel bad that I don't have time to dedicate to this, but I love the initiative! I'll be sure to put my hat in the ring if demand goes up and my free time grows. Good on you all!
I've been playing for a little while now. I have a pretty good, basic understanding of the game. I wouldn't mind some training/pointers to take my game up a notch or two if someone is interested. HA-Maddhadder
When do you play? If its ESTish, I can give you some pointers. My favorite pointer? Once you put runemetal (sword) on a unit "it becomes your 13 year old daughter, and she is smoking hot. You know what that means, right?" Crude, but so true, and its something beginners never realize. Every game with a beginner I'm able to trade an unupgraded unit + scroll or fireball (sometimes not even needing that) for the runemetal'd unit, and that is generally a very bad trade for the side with the runemetal (even though you have only 2 scrolls and 3 runemetals).
exams over yay!
so i can help!
Ragnaok (sweden gmt +1. faction specialist : DWs)
That's exactly the kind of thing I'm talking about. I haphazardly give units upgrades and send them in to battle, often getting KO'd on the first attempt. I have my phone on my all day and try to take my turn when I see it pop up. As far as a sit down and play constantly, that would be evenings EST. I play against my kids and random opponents, most of the time it is a play and wait kind of game.
So you runemetal a unit. Do you strike and retreat so you don't lose it?







Add me to the volunteer list, please.