TF beats Council for a few reasons. This is coming from someone who has won 70 games so far, all with TF2.
1.) Knights suck. I don't care how hard they are to kill, because I'll just ignore their useless 200 melee damage knock back attacks. That's 1/4th of Council that's complete garbage right there.
2.) Since Knights are garbage, Council effectively has 10 units. TF2 has 18.
3.) Council players like to pile their upgrades upon the Knight, which wastes upgrades and AP.
4.) I outnumber you, STOP trading your more valuable units for my dime a dozen ones, especially Engineers or Scouts. Go for my Medics. Furthermore, TF generally wins out in a trade unless I lose a Medic.
ParaGoombaSlayer, your main point is well-taken and previously discussed -- the fragile medics are TF2's Achilles heel. However, your other observations suggest to me that you really haven't played much in the way of strong Council opposition. For example, you kinda lost me here:
I believe Mr. 70-Wins needs a pointed demonstration from one of our resident CL capable Forumites.
I'd volunteer but play CL the least and as TF not at all (don't own); and we all know how my preciousness Tribe fair against TF... You think TF vs. CL is lopsided? Tribe is plain handicapped there.
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Knights are, and always have been, meat buckets. They're there to block damage and trade when stomping. If you've been playing Counil who pile upgrades unto them then you're not playing anyone worth drawing conclusions about game balence from.
Are you the nimh who used to make videos on ytube?
OnT: good council players would bend me over and pound me relentlessly while I play tf2. I know this as it happened just yesterday. Just try to improve and learn stuff like: if mr tf2 says you can't have a tile and sticks a sniper there to bring the point home, respect his opinion. If mr tf2 has a spy close to a unit you want to stomp, make sure that it is a trade you are willing to make. If there is a heavy nearby don't let him hit 3 people. Use inferno wisely
Redexoskeleton. That's my name in game. Challenge me if you like (I am slightly above average) be sure to mention if it is a friendly or league game
Playing with the CL against TF2 is stupid. All they have to do is go agressive from the start... Either i get very lucky with the initial set and go for crystals before they settle or im screwed as i cant camp and wait for them as their AOE is very good. Simply frustrating not being able to do anything.
So im quiting the league for now! Getting kicked since round 2 or 3 till the end of every game. Very frustrating.
Council - The heart and soul of Hero Academy! Humans shall prevail! :)
I dont like to play random games as 90% of them suck. I play in the league because i can find good opps. I play only with the council because...well...because i like them better. Dont think they are worse or better than the DE, DW or Tribe. Even against the mighty DE if you're patient enough you can beat a good player with the CL. But TF2 is a different story...even with full upgraded wizards i would have to be very lucky to make a difference. And remember that wizards are simply the worst @ AOE of the entire game.
The reason i like this game is because your success don't depend on luck but on your skills. In the end of every game you can blame luck but you know you could have done something different. But when you feel that you have to be lucky to win a game...well...then there's no point in playing for me. Im not crying or saying ill never play again... just going for a walk...lol
I thought witches were the worst AoE of the game?
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Windblade takes that title. :(
Successfully scaled back my game count, resuming normal play. :)
I'll be back to helping train new players when school gets out. :)